Post by ctghostman on Jul 30, 2020 13:09:53 GMT -5
You hope that you get a kid that “blows up” after you sign him. In today’s environment, its probably more likely that a kid like that slips though and you get him. A lot less has happened this summer so if kids are now living up to potential, few have seen them.
Let’s be realistic on this one, do not waste your time and recruiting $$$ . This guy is out of FF reach. The stags are only a recruiting footnote on his list of suitor schools.
Well especially when comparing the recruiting budget of when Sydney Johnson was in charge, I.E. the many forays to oversees locations far and wide, the fact that Jay Young would be attempting to entice Avery and a few other highly-rated players from the New England area surely wouldn't brake the budget I don't think. After all, at least right now in this brutal summer of 2020, the only recruiting that goes on is through phone calls, texts, E-Mail, zoom, WHATEVER, hardly something that costs a lot of money. Hopefully there will be some payoff down the line. Remember, even though we will never know how good he could have been as a Stag, Neftali Alveraz was considered a 3 star player who had interest from some higher level schools and even was offered (as documented) by Wichita State. Actually the same situation with Curtis Cobb who had strong interest from Wake Forest at the time. If this program is ever going to escape MAAC mediocrity they have to shoot consistently high in who they recruit even if there are going to be a lot of disappointments, surely something that will happen a lot when they are turned down by many of these kids for perceived better opportunities.
Aside from the team trips, did SJ really make many (any?) forays overseas? I thought most of those kids attended prep schools in the USA and/or their offers were the result of recruiting services?
Last Edit: Jul 31, 2020 11:49:07 GMT -5 by typhaon
Aside from the team trips, did SJ really make many (any?) forays overseas? I thought most of those kids attended prep schools in the USA and/or their offers were the result of recruiting services?
While it is true that many were recruited directly from the preps after they had arrived in the US, it is also true that there were quite a few trips taken oversees by Sydney or more often one particular member of his staff in Tom Parrotta.
Aside from the team trips, did SJ really make many (any?) forays overseas? I thought most of those kids attended prep schools in the USA and/or their offers were the result of recruiting services?
While it is true that many were recruited directly from the preps after they had arrived in the US, it is also true that there were quite a few trips taken oversees by Sydney or more often one particular member of his staff in Tom Parrotta.
Interesting. Well... it's all in the returns. Some schools have found a competitive advantage by securing quality overseas recruits.
If Milin was one of those guys - I was certainly VERY high on him after his frosh season - but it seemed his career was derailed by nagging injuries. When healthy, not a bad player, just didn't reach what I thought was his full potential. The big kid from Turkey didn't stay - but he turned out to be a decent mid-major player. Alvarez certainly looked to be worth the extra effort.
However he gets there, the onus is on JY to get more and better recruits... and ultimately win more games!
Last Edit: Jul 31, 2020 12:57:12 GMT -5 by typhaon
Post by reindeerfan on Jul 31, 2020 13:30:01 GMT -5
I never had an issue with overseas recruiting. I thought it was a good idea. Some guys Parrotta went overseas to see for sure. Think back to the three players we signed while overseas who did not prep in the US. The issue to me is we did not end up signing any overseas kids that were a cut above. At best we got MAAC level players. So there is no value to go overseas and get that level player. The issue is getting talent wherever you can.
This kid might have been the first player SJ brought in from overseas, though he originally committed to NC State.
He only stayed at FU for one year and then turned professional if I remember correctly. Might have been a pretty good player had he stayed. Looks like he is still playing pro ball in Europe.
We did get a lot of overseas recruits, but most of them were 2-star recruits. If they were 3-Star then that would been a difference maker. We were basically recruiting by U-Tube video..... only seeing the positive and not the negative. While we did spend money on Overseas recruiting, but not enough.
We should have been spending that money on building closer relationships to players/coaches in the NE-Preps, NYC/NJ, CT and loads of talent in the Philly/South Jersey connections.
We did get a lot of overseas recruits, but most of them were 2-star recruits. If they were 3-Star then that would been a difference maker. We were basically recruiting by U-Tube video..... only seeing the positive and not the negative. While we did spend money on Overseas recruiting, but not enough.
We should have been spending that money on building closer relationships to players/coaches in the NE-Preps, NYC/NJ, CT and loads of talent in the Philly/South Jersey connections.
I agree, but we can't change the past unfortunately. So instead in looking forward, what I like about the current staff is that to a man they are all basically from the Northeast area and appear to have connections with many of the local high school coaches. And as the first Jay Young recruits have started rolling in it looks like they are taking advantage of the situation. Never know of course until we start seeing positive results, but in just looking at the current roster concerning just the NE-Prep aspect, important because that level of competition is generally some of the best in the country, it is interesting to note that five of these players came from those schools. And four of them were recruited by Jay (Green, Ngalakulondi, Leach and John Kelly), while Whipple was brought in by Sydney. So will this pay off in the future? My guess is yes, but if nothing else based on success or failure in the next 2-3 years, certainly there will be a clear indication of which type recruiting method is better. And BTW, again concerning the Preps, many of the players who end up in these schools are not necessarily from the Northeast. Other parts of the country plus even some from other countries certainly means that recruiting kids from these programs gives the Stags the opportunity to get the best of both worlds, I.E. talent from everywhere yet not having to go a long way or spend a lot of money to view this talent. In the end this should pay off, right?
Last Edit: Aug 1, 2020 9:18:35 GMT -5 by nashvillestag
We did get a lot of overseas recruits, but most of them were 2-star recruits. If they were 3-Star then that would been a difference maker. We were basically recruiting by U-Tube video..... only seeing the positive and not the negative. While we did spend money on Overseas recruiting, but not enough.
We should have been spending that money on building closer relationships to players/coaches in the NE-Preps, NYC/NJ, CT and loads of talent in the Philly/South Jersey connections.
I agree, but we can't change the past unfortunately. So instead in looking forward, what I like about the current staff is that to a man they are all basically from the Northeast area and appear to have connections with many of the local high school coaches. And as the first Jay Young recruits have started rolling in it looks like they are taking advantage of the situation. Never know of course until we start seeing positive results, but in just looking at the current roster concerning just the NE-Prep aspect, important because that level of competition is generally some of the best in the country, it is interesting to note that five of these players came from those schools. And four of them were recruited by Jay (Green, Ngalakulondi, Leach and John Kelly), while Whipple was brought in by Sydney. So will this pay off in the future? My guess is yes, but if nothing else based on success or failure in the next 2-3 years, certainly there will be a clear indication of which type recruiting method is better. And BTW, again concerning the Preps, many of the players who end up in these schools are not necessarily from the Northeast. Other parts of the country plus even some from other countries certainly means that recruiting kids from these programs gives the Stags the opportunity to get the best of both worlds, I.E. talent from everywhere yet not having to go a long way or spend a lot of money to view this talent. In the end this should pay off, right?
Recruiting HS/Prep coaches is as important as recruiting the actual players. The coaches are a long term investment, while the players can give us some immediate stars.
Jay Young seems to give us both. Green, Ngalakulondi, Leach, Supreme Cook and Maidoh give us a balanced class.
Post by nashvillestag on Sept 7, 2020 12:22:09 GMT -5
Great article today in the Connecticut Post about Avery Brown and the progress he has been making since leaving Fairfield Prep and going away to school at Northfield Mount Herman in Massachusetts. I'm afraid his stock is blowing up (great for him but bad for the Stags prospects of getting him) based on some of the major schools now getting involved. According to this latest info, Indiana, Ohio State, Missouri, Stanford, Xavier, Penn. State, St. John's, UConn. and Yale are some of the competition Fairfield would have to beat out. And there's still two years to go with his scholastic career. But to illustrate how highly regarded he has become, he now has a national ranking (from 247Sports) of #101 best player and #18 among point guards, 2022 class. Wherever he ends up however, it's great to see a Connecticut native do well (even though he only spent one year in the CIAC).
Great article today in the Connecticut Post about Avery Brown and the progress he has been making since leaving Fairfield Prep and going away to school at Northfield Mount Herman in Massachusetts. I'm afraid his stock is blowing up (great for him but bad for the Stags prospects of getting him) based on some of the major schools now getting involved. According to this latest info, Indiana, Ohio State, Missouri, Stanford, Xavier, Penn. State, St. John's, UConn. and Yale are some of the competition Fairfield would have to beat out. And there's still two years to go with his scholastic career. But to illustrate how highly regarded he has become, he now has a national ranking (from 247Sports) of #101 best player and #18 among point guards, 2022 class. Wherever he ends up however, it's great to see a Connecticut native do well (even though he only spent one year in the CIAC).
Praise for Avery Brown in their game with IMG.
A reminder that we have an open offer for Brown and that JY said in the latest open podcast that if no other scholarships open up, JY would like to use the one scholarship we have on shoring up the PG position. It’s mentioned in the ctinsider article that 73 provided the link to that Avery’s dad was a teammate of Chris Smith at Kobe Cathedral.
While it is true that many were recruited directly from the preps after they had arrived in the US, it is also true that there were quite a few trips taken oversees by Sydney or more often one particular member of his staff in Tom Parrotta.Aside from the team trips, did SJ really make many (any?) forays overseas? I thought most of those kids attended prep schools in the USA and/or their offers were the result of recruiting services?
