Post by jenningsbeach on Aug 5, 2021 13:51:07 GMT -5
Medgar Evers is a Brooklyn-based CUNY school. The Cougars did not play basketball last season (COVID). DIII, as Nash says. I'd prefer to play DI programs, but yes, it is what it is.
No real surprises, apart from ME. And 31 games is better than 29. Here's how I break it down.
Likely unwinnable @ Providence
Tough road games @ Boston College @ UMass @ William & Mary
Playing a D3 school is a mistake IMO. It is all liability with no real upside. I rather play one less game at home or go on the road against a D1 opponent. At the end of the year if you are lucky enough to be in consideration for a NCAA bid , beating a D3 school does nothing to help your rating. Losing to a D3 school( god forbid) hurts you big time.
Playing a D3 school is a mistake IMO. It is all liability with no real upside. I rather play one less game at home or go on the road against a D1 opponent. At the end of the year if you are lucky enough to be in consideration for a NCAA bid , beating a D3 school does nothing to help your rating. Losing to a D3 school( god forbid) hurts you big time.
I'd also rather be playing a D1 school, but I'm not gonna get my shorts in a bunch over playing a D3. If we lose to a D3, we almost certainly don't belong in the NCAA tourney short of winning the MAAC tourney, which is probably the only way we get in anyway.
And it's worth noting that Yale plays a D3 school every year and it hasn't hurt their program.
Last Edit: Aug 6, 2021 8:32:20 GMT -5 by dannynoonan
I'd also rather be playing a D1 school, but I'm not gonna get my shorts in a bunch over playing a D3. If we lose to a D3, we almost certainly don't belong in the NCAA tourney short of winning the MAAC tourney, which is probably the only way we get in anyway.
And it's worth noting that Yale plays a D3 school every year and it hasn't hurt their program.
Harvard too as a matter of fact, and they haven't been too bad the last few years. And for an example of even the biggest going this route, Kansas has in recent years brought in a D-111 at some point to compete against them at Fogg Allen Arena. I think one school in particular that comes to mind is Ft. Hayes State. So like you, while I'm not particularly marking my calendar as this contest being a 'can't miss' if for some reason I have a conflict, nevertheless I think it's better than nothing on that date. And BTW yes, let's get REAL, the Stags are not getting an invite to the NCAA Tournament this coming season if they don't win the MAAC Tournament. I may be wrong, but I don't think the result of this game effects the NET (or whatever metric is used) anyway when the committee sits down to determine the field. So at the end of the year when we all evaluate success or failure of the team, this match-up and result will have little relevance to how the whole season will be thought of based upon how the squad will have performed against their league foes, particularly in the season ending tourney.
Playing a D3 school is a mistake IMO. It is all liability with no real upside. I rather play one less game at home or go on the road against a D1 opponent. At the end of the year if you are lucky enough to be in consideration for a NCAA bid , beating a D3 school does nothing to help your rating. Losing to a D3 school( god forbid) hurts you big time.
Agree. Wonder if there is a story behind this.
Pure speculation on my part, but I have to believe that Jay Young (and Paul S.) tried their best to find a D-1 opponent to fill this specific date on the calendar and couldn't do it. So apparently given the league okay, connections in some way between the coaching staffs at both schools brought this contest to reality. Again though, that's just MY guess and nothing more.
Pure speculation on my part, but I have to believe that Jay Young (and Paul S.) tried their best to find a D-1 opponent to fill this specific date on the calendar and couldn't do it. So apparently given the league okay, connections in some way between the coaching staffs at both schools brought this contest to reality. Again though, that's just MY guess and nothing more.
Appears athletic's goals are in line with Nemec's vision of national prominence.
More poor judgement. Play one less game. If you beat up on this team so what. If you lose, you lose twice. But FU never cares about PR (or just executes it very poorly).
Hey, the bright side is we do play our regular season in the MAAC.
Pure speculation on my part, but I have to believe that Jay Young (and Paul S.) tried their best to find a D-1 opponent to fill this specific date on the calendar and couldn't do it. So apparently given the league okay, connections in some way between the coaching staffs at both schools brought this contest to reality. Again though, that's just MY guess and nothing more.
Appears athletic's goals are in line with Nemec's vision of national prominence.
More poor judgement. Play one less game. If you beat up on this team so what. If you lose, you lose twice. But FU never cares about PR (or just executes it very poorly).
Hey, the bright side is we do play our regular season in the MAAC.
Barakat played games like this occasionally. I don’t see it as a big deal. Might not be a great game but might provide an opportunity for the newcomers to get significant PT.
Pure speculation on my part, but I have to believe that Jay Young (and Paul S.) tried their best to find a D-1 opponent to fill this specific date on the calendar and couldn't do it. So apparently given the league okay, connections in some way between the coaching staffs at both schools brought this contest to reality. Again though, that's just MY guess and nothing more.
Appears athletic's goals are in line with Nemec's vision of national prominence.
More poor judgement. Play one less game. If you beat up on this team so what. If you lose, you lose twice. But FU never cares about PR (or just executes it very poorly).
Hey, the bright side is we do play our regular season in the MAAC.
I think it's more fun to play games - than to not play them. It's the 31st game. Something to get the juices flowing before much harder contests.
Appears athletic's goals are in line with Nemec's vision of national prominence.
More poor judgement. Play one less game. If you beat up on this team so what. If you lose, you lose twice. But FU never cares about PR (or just executes it very poorly).
Hey, the bright side is we do play our regular season in the MAAC.
Barakat played games like this occasionally. I don’t see it as a big deal. Might not be a great game but might provide an opportunity for the newcomers to get significant PT.
I’m fine with it as well. Of course Barakat was scheduling when there were about 200 D1 schools.
Barakat played games like this occasionally. I don’t see it as a big deal. Might not be a great game but might provide an opportunity for the newcomers to get significant PT.
I’m fine with it as well. Of course Barakat was scheduling when there were about 200 D1 schools.
The Stags were also an independent then thereby meaning Fred could schedule whomever he wanted. In many ways he was sly like a fox in order to make his team look the best it could be. For instance check out his best season (1977-78) where he knew he needed an occasional breather before some tough match-ups with such opponents as Boston College, South Carolina, Duquesne, Seton Hall, St. Joe's, St. Bonnie's and Holy Cross (a real power at the time). By my count the Stags also played against no less than five non D-1 schools including UB, Stonehill, Catholic, Montclair St. and Loyola (not a D-1 school at the time). Of course it also didn't hurt that among the 25 regular season contests, 18 of them were at home! Different time, different place with the program, but an interesting history to consider when we start to opine on just this ONE non-conforming scheduled contest, right?
Post by jenningsbeach on Aug 7, 2021 9:37:38 GMT -5
It boils down to Young wanting an early-season win, wanting not to repeat last's year's disastrous start. The Stags are staring at 0-2 (Providence, BC), with Sacred Heart and Stony Brook looming. The Pioneers will be favorites to beat us, and SB is ranked No. 100 by the Top 144 guys. Young wants no part of 0-4. He probably couldn't schedule an "easy" D1 opponent in the first week, so we get Medgar Evers. I am curious to know how this game came to be.
Plus, a blowout win over ME might build team confidence heading into the Pitt Center.
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nash said, The Stags were also an independent then thereby meaning Fred could schedule whomever he wanted. In many ways he was sly like a fox in order to make his team look the best it could be. For instance check out his best season (1977-78) where he knew he needed an occasional breather before some tough match-ups with such opponents as Boston College, South Carolina, Duquesne, Seton Hall, St. Joe's, St. Bonnie's and Holy Cross (a real power at the time). By my count the Stags also played against no less than five non D-1 schools including UB, Stonehill, Catholic, Montclair St. and Loyola (not a D-1 school at the time).....
1977-78 Season Results (22-5 overall) 11/28 Loyola W, 100-89 11/30 Bridgeport W, 98-86 12/3 Stonehill W, 85-65 12/6 at Boston College L, 76-79 12/10 Duquesne W, 90-84 12/12 Vermont W, 82-67 12/23 Montclair State W, 95-65 1/3 at Canisius W, 86-69 1/6 Catholic$ W, 72-64 1/7 American$ W, 105-88 1/11 at South Carolina L, 69-75 1/14 at Yale W, 73-72 1/18 Hofstra W, 112-86 1/21 Holy Cross W, 123-103 1/23 Iona W, 78-76 1/27 St. Francis N.Y. W, 96-87 1/29 at New Hampshire W, 90-55 1/30 at Boston University W, 89-83 2/4 Manhattan W, 82-78 2/11 Seton Hall L, 77-99 2/13 at St. Peter’s W, 81-71 2/18 St. Joseph’s W, 86-62 2/20 St. Bonaventure W, 92-81 2/22 Long Island W, 72-56 2/28 Connecticut W, 63-57 3/2 Rhode Island@ L, 69-71 3/10 Dayton+ L, 93-106 $ - Boys Club Classic; @ - ECAC Tournament; + - NIT