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Post by sobro on Feb 27, 2016 8:58:27 GMT -5
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Post by Stagophile on Feb 27, 2016 9:43:05 GMT -5
Did a Ghetto Party occur? YES Were students in black and brown face? NO Were fellow Fairfield University minority students and alumni still offended by the Ghetto Party? YES Much ado about nothing? NO
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Post by mattygstag on Feb 27, 2016 11:03:39 GMT -5
Okay, Fairfield has become a "safe space" where freedom of speech is dead. There is no room for other opinions, humor, or light heartedness when "diversity" is involved. The university and many alumni bow down to "multiculturalism for its own sake" at the expense of common sense. This is not a Fairfield University that I am proud of. It will not be long before we start having Islamic services in our chapel.
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Post by Stagophile on Feb 27, 2016 11:17:03 GMT -5
WOW! And I considered myself to be a reasonable person on this issue as I do believe the Black Live Matters movement to be overly PC and misguided in certain areas. However, to completely dismiss the concerns and sensitivities of the minority community at Fairfield University is completely misguided and shameful.
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Post by terpstag on Feb 27, 2016 11:26:10 GMT -5
A Message From The President email: Dear Fairfield University Alumni, Parents and Friends – Over the past two days, I presume that many of you have seen news reports about an incident that occurred over the weekend. As a university we are working diligently to understand the details of this event. I am personally aware of and sensitive to the potential impact this incident is having on our student body. I am personally committed to continuing to engage in critical dialogue that builds an inclusive community of learners from diverse social, economic, racial, cultural, national and religious backgrounds. Fairfield University is explicitly committed as a Jesuit and Catholic university to a culture that embraces and celebrates diversity. We actively encourage conversations and multi-cultural education programs that deepen our cultural competence. Along with our formal and informal programming, this week the Office of Student Diversity and Multicultural Affairs will hold extended evening hours to discuss the incident with students and an open forum will take place this evening for students, faculty and staff. This past Monday, I sent a University-wide communication and we will continue to ensure that we maintain open dialogue as we move forward. As members of the extended Fairfield community, I hope you will join me in my commitment to continue to build our cultural awareness. I welcome you to visit our University website to learn more about our Mission & Identity and Commitment to Diversity. Sincerely, Jeffrey P. von Arx, S.J. President This incident shows that some students have incredibly poor taste and bad manners and they should be told that their stupidity has embarrassed the university and hurt fellow students. However, I never favor turning someone's stupidity into a thoughtcrime that must be punished by the powers that be. All the students that had nothing to do with this now have to "discuss" this in an "open forum" led by the Office of Student Diversity and Muticultural Affairs. Anyone who has worked for a large organization where some fool has told a joke that is or can be considered insensitive knows where this often leads -mind numbing meetings, workshops,seminars etc where completely innocent parties are lectured and asked to confess to some privlege. The parties that had nothing to do with the incident often resent this and the ensuing backlash actually makes matters worse.
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Post by sobro on Feb 27, 2016 12:13:10 GMT -5
Hold on. There is a HUGE difference as to whether there was "blackface" at the party or not, and to say there isn't, is disingenuous, at best. Apparently, there were photos published that had to be pulled because their veracity was highly questionable. This seems to be a very small incident of bad taste that has been blown up into a major, race related, scandal. IMO, any periodical that published those photos needs to apologize to the University and print a disclaimer that the accounts of students wearing "blackface" was patently false.
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Post by Stagophile on Feb 27, 2016 12:42:29 GMT -5
Hold on. There is a HUGE difference as to whether there was "blackface" at the party or not, and to say there isn't, is disingenuous, at best. Apparently, there were photos published that had to be pulled because their veracity was highly questionable. This seems to be a very small incident of bad taste that has been blown up into a major, race related, scandal. IMO, any periodical that published those photos needs to apologize to the University and print a disclaimer that the accounts of students wearing "blackface" was patently false. I would agree to a certain extent. Some of the reporting has been highly questionable helping to feed the social media frenzy. It was reported by some outlets that students were in black/brown face. This is false. In addition, three photos that appeared in various articles were verified to have not been taken at the party. However, it cannot be denied that students were dressed in a manner that mocked a segment of our society from which some Fairfield students and alumni come from. These fellow Fairfield University students and alumni from the minority community took offense. That is enough for me. We should value their viewpoint and try to learn from the experience rather than completely dismissing what happened.
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Post by mattygstag on Feb 27, 2016 14:32:40 GMT -5
White people especially white men are mocked, teased, and discriminated against all the time. It is more difficult for us to get into Ivy League schools or walk down the streets of many American cities simply because we are white. Many black comedians often refer to us as "crackers." I am okay with all of this. Once again, we are too worried over offending minorities who want to take away our rights to freedom of speech and freedom of expression by mandating "safe spaces." This is garbage. Political correctness is dumb. We should try to lift up those living in the ghetto through the corporal works of mercy. However, there is nothing wrong with having a little ghetto party mocking ghetto culture. I will not bow down to multiculturalism for its own sake.
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Post by sobro on Feb 27, 2016 15:00:14 GMT -5
Mocking the underprivileged might be in bad taste, but its not racial in the least. If one thinks its limited to a specific race, who has the race problem?
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Post by ctghostman on Feb 27, 2016 16:04:39 GMT -5
Big difference between tasteless & racist. I tend to believe that the FU kids may have done something in bad taste. There's probably some racists among us, but it's clearly not the norm and it should not be a label that is on FU. A big push and big reaction creates a "where there's smoke" reaction among outsiders. IMO, letting that reaction get legs was a poor reaction/handling of the incident.
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Post by Stagophile on Feb 27, 2016 18:28:35 GMT -5
Good for these Fairfield alums!
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Post by mattygstag on Feb 27, 2016 22:27:08 GMT -5
Who cares about these leftists, socialists, and race baiting racists!
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Post by Stagophile on Feb 27, 2016 23:17:15 GMT -5
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Post by ctghostman on Feb 27, 2016 23:29:54 GMT -5
Stagophile- do you think the kids who held the party are racist?
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Post by Stagophile on Feb 27, 2016 23:41:14 GMT -5
I believe that fellow members of the Fairfield University community were offended by what occurred and that their voices are being dismissed. I value every member of the community and we should respect their voices.
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