New transfer rule will be interesting... I think it's going to be quite a problem to solve for recruiting.
Yeah but everyone will be in the same boat and it's who is the smartest and can take advantage who will get a leg up on everybody else. Let's hope we have the right guys in pace to do just that. I have a feeling that we do, but time will tell if I am correct.
Well I don't like to speculate much on transfers out during the season. And while the above names might seem logical to the casual observer, I suspect, given what I know, that we will have 6 scholarships to use, but I believe the 6 will likely not be an exact match to the names mentioned above.
Agreed we will see. Just like we can't say Peter Kiss is leaving Rutgers to join Jay Young. Who knows but could be nice...
New transfer rule will be interesting... I think it's going to be quite a problem to solve for recruiting.
If guys can play immediately, I think many more will be inclined to consider a transfer. For the Stags it puts us at much greater jeopardy to lose a few folks that might otherwise stay because they are seniors.
I might add that Sydney was someone I would consider a "players coach." There are some good things about this, players might feel comfortable, happy and less inclined to leave. The bad thing of course is this kind of coach isn't always pushing people hard enough to become their best.
I think it may be quite an adjustment to go from a Sydney Johnson style coach to a Jay Young. I don't go to practices and I am not that close to what is going on in the gym, but in watching Jay in games it seems he is very demanding, and hard on his players. He seems like he might be a yeller. That style was very common when I was growing up and players expected this. However with this generation, I wonder whether this approach will be embraced.
Would it surprise anyone if any of the players had "run in's" with the coach this year? If anyone might have been suspended for a game or two by this coach? It would not surprise me at all. I think Jay expects a lot from his players. In this world of rampant transfers I wonder whether Young's style will impact his ability to retain talent. It will be interesting to see what happens after the season. I personally don't like to see turnover, but I will understand if a few people leave over playing time issues, it is normal for players who are not seeing the court to want to search for greener pastures. Losing starters though would be a very unfortunate thing, lets hope that doesn't happen.
On the other hand - you're now competing with (potentially) every bench guy at every high major that wants to drop to a mid-major and play immediately. No matter how people shuffle around - there are still only 350 teams with 13 scholarships (or whatever the exact numbers are).
Interesting test case will be Jalen Pickett... one would figure he's a guy that would be a good bet to transfer under the new rules.
New transfer rule will be interesting... I think it's going to be quite a problem to solve for recruiting.
If guys can play immediately, I think many more will be inclined to consider a transfer. For the Stags it puts us at much greater jeopardy to lose a few folks that might otherwise stay because they are seniors.
I might add that Sydney was someone I would consider a "players coach." There are some good things about this, players might feel comfortable, happy and less inclined to leave. The bad thing of course is this kind of coach isn't always pushing people hard enough to become their best.
I think it may be quite an adjustment to go from a Sydney Johnson style coach to a Jay Young. I don't go to practices and I am not that close to what is going on in the gym, but in watching Jay in games it seems he is very demanding, and hard on his players. He seems like he might be a yeller. That style was very common when I was growing up and players expected this. However with this generation, I wonder whether this approach will be embraced.
Would it surprise anyone if any of the players had "run in's" with the coach this year? If anyone might have been suspended for a game or two by this coach? It would not surprise me at all. I think Jay expects a lot from his players. In this world of rampant transfers I wonder whether Young's style will impact his ability to retain talent. It will be interesting to see what happens after the season. I personally don't like to see turnover, but I will understand if a few people leave over playing time issues, it is normal for players who are not seeing the court to want to search for greener pastures. Losing starters though would be a very unfortunate thing, lets hope that doesn't happen.
I might add that Sydney was someone I would consider a "players coach." There are some good things about this, players might feel comfortable, happy and less inclined to leave.
Syd had so much turnover. Here is just off the top of my head:
Adam Jones, Jamel Fields, Keith Matthews, Jossip, Lincoln Davis, Kevin Degnan, Jerry Johnson, Curtis Cobb, Denis Celen, Ferron Flavors.
If guys can play immediately, I think many more will be inclined to consider a transfer. For the Stags it puts us at much greater jeopardy to lose a few folks that might otherwise stay because they are seniors.
I might add that Sydney was someone I would consider a "players coach." There are some good things about this, players might feel comfortable, happy and less inclined to leave. The bad thing of course is this kind of coach isn't always pushing people hard enough to become their best.
I think it may be quite an adjustment to go from a Sydney Johnson style coach to a Jay Young. I don't go to practices and I am not that close to what is going on in the gym, but in watching Jay in games it seems he is very demanding, and hard on his players. He seems like he might be a yeller. That style was very common when I was growing up and players expected this. However with this generation, I wonder whether this approach will be embraced.
Would it surprise anyone if any of the players had "run in's" with the coach this year? If anyone might have been suspended for a game or two by this coach? It would not surprise me at all. I think Jay expects a lot from his players. In this world of rampant transfers I wonder whether Young's style will impact his ability to retain talent. It will be interesting to see what happens after the season. I personally don't like to see turnover, but I will understand if a few people leave over playing time issues, it is normal for players who are not seeing the court to want to search for greener pastures. Losing starters though would be a very unfortunate thing, lets hope that doesn't happen.
I might add that Sydney was someone I would consider a "players coach." There are some good things about this, players might feel comfortable, happy and less inclined to leave.
Syd had so much turnover. Here is just off the top of my head:
Adam Jones, Jamel Fields, Keith Matthews, Jossip, Lincoln Davis, Kevin Degnan, Jerry Johnson, Curtis Cobb, Denis Celen, Ferron Flavors.
Its hard to argue with your point particularly with regards to losing JJ, Flavors and Cobb, three players you would think that SJ would have wanted to keep. But I think its would be fair to say that SJ didn't want many of these players that left, they were "run off" rather than leaving for other reasons. I understand that Jones, Fields, Davis, Degnan, Rose, Grennan, Chappel and Degnan were players Johnson didn't really want to keep. With regards to Matthews, I think Johnson wanted to keep him and he left over playing time. Jossip left I understand for issues about wanting to be paid to play in europe. We all know that Johnson and Flavors left reportedly to be closser to home, I don't think Johnson wanted to lose either of those guys. Cobb was a different matter though, it seems Cobb was a player that Johnson was unable to coach manage and this was creating some issues for the team. I think Johnson really mishandled Cobb, but that's easy for me to say as I wasn't dealing with the matter every day.
So the turnover issue is never black and white. Bobby Knight didn't have a turnover issue and he was brutal to play for. When you win and you make players believe you are trying to make them better, a coach can get away with a lot. So I think you make a good point about turnover under Johnson, it was way too high. I think it was a problem, but the issue wasn't that people hated Johnson, it was that he recruited too many guys that couldn't play at this level.
Coach indicated that FF has initiated a NCAA request to have Vincent Eze have one more year of eligibility. Not sure what is the timeline to have the NCAA rule on these type of requests?
For the record - I don't think the turnover during SJ's years was very remarkable. In line, if not a little less than NCAA averages, I think.
I agree, In general, Turnover has increased for all Division I schools. However, the important measurement is in how many "good" players left the program. Players like like Jerry Johnson, Ferron Flavors, Kevin Degnan, and Neftali Alvarez. If we kept those players, our guard situation would have been much at this time.
For the record - I don't think the turnover during SJ's years was very remarkable. In line, if not a little less than NCAA averages, I think.
I agree, In general, Turnover has increased for all Division I schools. However, the important measurement is in how many "good" players left the program. Players like like Jerry Johnson, Ferron Flavors, Kevin Degnan, and Neftali Alvarez. If we kept those players, our guard situation would have been much at this time.
Well all it takes to understand how accurate this thought is, IE the Stag turnover rate being "average" at worse, is just look at the amount of players who have transferred that have happened as a matter of record all over the country. Last year alone I believe the number was somewhere between 800 and 900 out of 353 D-1 schools, or in other words almost 3 per school. And as far as losing "good players," Fairfield is no different than other MAAC schools like Niagara, Canisius, Quinnipiac, St. Peter's and even Iona (with Shadric Casimir) who have had to make quick adjustments because of this very thing happening. Even other nearby schools not in the MAAC, Sacred Heart being a prime example (Cane Broome and Quincy McKnight) where their best laid plans were put on hold when they departed.