No one is bolting the program. If the Gilberts, or Amadou or KJ etc. were leaving,I would be concerned. Let's see what kind of players we end up with when the dust settles. I remain hopeful.
No one is bolting the program. If the Gilberts, or Amadou or KJ etc. were leaving,I would be concerned. Let's see what kind of players we end up with when the dust settles. I remain hopeful.
79 you are a glass half full kind of guy. No one on that list of players excites me. Marcus Gilbert made some nice strides this year but has been settling on the 3 ball way too much as has a lot of the rest of the team.
Not sure if these players were talentless but SJ has not shown much logic in who he plays or what kind of system he is trying to run. Helter skelter seems like the plan and it shows in his W-L. I think Sydney should go to Bob Knights coaching clinic over the summer.
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Agreed... nary a word about any of this to the media or stag fans. Radio silent...again, this doesn't fly in the real world unless you have a nice extension for doing Nada.
Especially from a guard perspective, SJ has been a poor evaluator of personnel with his first two classes. Why should we have confidence that this one will be different?
The whole thing is sad.jenkins grennan.davis.others to follow.there is something wrong .no way to handle players.its a symptom of what is going on.also speculation that davis was pressured to sign by coaching staff. Major violation. Recruits are starting to smell something Wrong.
The coach certainly can have something to do with this. But the game has changed a lot. Players now leave when they want to, and it seems coaches are more likely to gently push kids out if they are not performing.
Let's not forget that Cooley "lost" a bunch of kids too (Jamal Turner, Roi Buchbinder, Richard Flemming, Shimeek Johnson, Devin Johnson). I don't remember anyone crying when those players left.
Well it looks possible that Sydney will lose more players this year than Cooley lost in 5 years. So in my mind the situation with SJ and EC are quite a bit different. You may recall that Ed was hired after the season was over and he went out recruiting the leftovers. Those "leftovers" included BuchBinder, Flemming and Johnson. Kids that might not have gotten a scholarship except for the fact that Fairfield had 5 to give. I know at least one of these players was told it was only a one year commitment. Sydney on the other hand had 3 years to evaluate talent and recruit and he is going to lose much of who he brought in. I think it is a real stretch to compare these situations.
I understand get ridding of kids that are not working hard, that are not trying to improve. Do we really have 5 kids on this team that are not working to get better? Or is something else going on here? And if we have 5 kids that don't care to improve, is perhaps this a coaching issue? A coach who can't motivate his players or a coach that can't pick people that have fight in them?
I hope Sydney rights the ship with this recruiting class because this is really his last chance to get it right. If he doesn't Sydney will be like TOT was in the end. Love him or hate him, damaged goods that can't attract anyone because of the perceived state of the program.
In this day in age, some turnover is expected, especially after this year!
BUT, losing a player like Justin Jenkins is not good. He had tons of talent and if motivated and coached, he would have been a solid Junior and Senior.
A fog of negativity surrounds the program right now and seems to be thickening... I hope we can find a ray of light to emerge from this mess.
And, yes, I think MESS is the right word.
Mo Barrow not a Captain? We should have seen the writing on the wall. I still don't understand that call.
As for JJ, I think we can all script what SJ said to him, we saw it happening.
This should not be a surprise about Jenkins, and any guard that Stevie Johnston beat out should not be surprised. Thats not being disrespectful to StevieJ, just that he worked hard and got results. He earned his PT and pushed some of the other guards deeper into depth chart. I think you will see that the player that did work hard are the ones that are staying on this team. Which should be most of them
Well it looks possible that Sydney will lose more players this year than Cooley lost in 5 years.
Since Cooley lost 9 players over his time, I don't think there is a chance of that happening. We have lost 2 players and with the possibility of 1-2 more.
I don't like seeing this happen but the fact of the matter is, a player is given $50k+ a year in scholarships. Their "job" is not simply to show up. It is to work hard, get better, and contribute. If these young men were working hard, listening to their coaches, and holding up their end of the bargain, both on the court and in the classroom, then this result is disappointing. If they were not, then no one owes them anything. They are not entitled to a free education.
The reality in today's world is that players transfer, or are pushed out, all the time. The days when a player transferred out once in a blue moon are long gone. Let's not act like this result is a rare occasion in this day and age.
Exactly...... and everyone knew this was going to be a down year, but nobody thought it would be only a 7 win team, and that is a direct result of our guard recruits over the last 2 years not being good enough. and not improving enough.
No one on that list of players excites me. Marcus Gilbert made some nice strides this year but has been settling on the 3 ball way too much as has a lot of the rest of the team.
While I agree that Marcus settled too much on the 3-pointer, I would say he did more than just make "Nice Strides". Both he and Barrow made tremedous strides in their games. If Marcus can make those same strides for next year, we will be talking about one of the best players in the MAAC
This offseason all comes down to us having some special players at guard ..... it all comes down to KJ's improvement, Segura and Nelson being players, and an immediate impact JUCO. We can rise just as "fast" with good guards.... Just as Fast as we fell with poor guards that could not replace Needham, Wade and Nickerson. Our recruitment of guards last year and for the last 4 recruiting classes has been close to a disaster.
Stag79 and VAstag. For the record ..davis and grennan had been cleared by an investigation.for exactly that .they didnt violate any rules.and had the support of their team in that they were vocal to the point of going to the coach to say it.which is why There is an internal investigation on the program and coach as we speak. Remember these kids were to work on their commitment and focus . Yet given no way to do it.! These coaches promise kids.then they also dont deliver.its a2way street but the whole group under achieved but coaches stay .and make kids find a new home. Its wrong..how about coaching!! Make kids better .what a great idea. But some players get one year and out?? Then a new group comes in . Jenkins sat for 14games and all of a sudden could play.?? Stop it.. Malcolm blocks shots at the end of season ..but couldnt before.?.did he grow.,? .maybe just maybe talent is there and coaches dont know what their doing. These kids all looked good once under another coach .then they get here and all of a sudden they lost talent. tell that to the transfer at st peters.who beat us. The over all harmony of this shows something is wrong. Please its obvious.
Nobody said Davis or Grennan violated teams rules. The reason was their lack of Focus and Committment.
Its unfortunate that some kids get only one year to prove it, some get 2 years. But, most kids did find a way to prove it.... didn't they. And if they didn't, they must have shown enough to differentiate themselves
Obviously, you are not aware of any of the reasons why Jenkins and Malcolm did not get minutes early
And while Fields of St Peters is a good kid, the bottom line is he was a backup guard for every coach he played for..... and played the most minutes for Sydney, less for Cooley and even less for St Peters. He deserves credit that he out-played our inexperienced guards. And even with that, they needed Desi Washington to beat us with miraculous shots.
There is an internal investigation on the program and coach as we speak.....
Internal investigation - By whom (GD, VP Mark Reed?) and about who (SJ, coaches, players?) and what (focus, commitment, players being taken off the team not benched or not allowed to practice, players leaving the program, recruiting?)?
Your grammar and spelling need investigation and remediation. I hope you are not a Fairfield graduate if you write so poorly.
Also, what is the inside information that you keep dangling out there without details? Was Sydney keeping an incident private by using "focus and commitment?" If so, do you think he was being good to them by protecting them from the media and public? If he really wasn't good to them, wouldn't he shame them?